A Treat for Fellow Red Zone Junkies

I made this a while back, but I haven't publicized it. This is the perfect companion for the Red Zone channel on Sundays, especially for a the 1pm slot.

I call it The Wall.

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9 Responses to “A Treat for Fellow Red Zone Junkies”

  1. Borat says:

    Did Roger Waters approve?

  2. Unknown says:

    So, watching some of Sundays games (I live in the UK and finally forked out for Game Pass this year) I was struck with a question - which team cost itself most WPA due to penalties?

    I'm a Vikings fan, and was hugely frustrated with some ill-disciplined play that gave away some crucial 1st downs. Then I watched the end of the Redskins game, and thought this might be a question close to Mr Burke's heart too...

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  4. Alan says:

    Would love to see some analysis of what I saw as very flawed logic in the decision made late in the Browns-Bengals game by Shurmur--which the color commentator insisted was correct, as did this columnist:

    "Disagreeable as it seemed, the decision by Pat Shurmur, down 10 points, to kick a field goal on fourth-and-5 in the final 2 minutes was correct. It is, of course, easier to score a touchdown from the 5 than from near midfield after theoretically recovering an onside kick. But if you fail on fourth down, school's out. By kicking the FG, you at least 'extend the game,' as the saying goes, and force the Bengals to field the onside kick.
    It's why teams down 15 points almost never go for the 2-point conversion on the first of the two TDs they needed to tie. If they fail, the deficit is 9 points, or two possessions, and it's time to say goodnight."

  5. stevekirsch says:

    @Alan The error in that argument is that extending the game doesn't always increase your chances of winning. Sometimes it delays the inevitable. Sometimes it decreases your chances.

  6. Anonymous says:

    But you have to weigh the psychological effects. The players will quit if they miss the 2 point conversion after the 1st TD.

  7. stevekirsch says:

    @Anon - If you miss the 2PC, whether you try it now or later, you're likely going to lose. Whether you miss it now or later is of little consequence. The player will "quit" when the game is out of reach. Delaying this let down doesn't do much to improve the chances of winning.

    Now if there were a reason that you felt your chances of converting the 2PC later rather than sooner, its better to delay. That said, I've never heard anyone invoke this excuse.

  8. James says:

    Anon, if NFL players give up after not converting a two point conversion, then they need to grow up. No one else quits trying at their job when it gets hard, and certainly not people paid hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to do that job.

  9. Alan says:

    I agree strongly with Steve.

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